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this equal protection idea. they were about race. >> scott: since the civil war. >> right. the historical case. there are parallels between these kinds of discrimination. here is another difference. in 1967 when the supreme court in loving versus virginia banned gay marriage, in that time, only 16 states retained such a ban. the previous decade plus, 14 states moved away from the bans. we still have a situation where 40 states prohibit same-sex marriage. that may change in four or five years. that is different with the mainstream. >> i would say one of the things that is interesting is how fast public opinion is moving. in the case of interracial marriage in 1967, there were polls showing lower levels of support when the supreme court acted than there are today. there is the fact that many states and one reason is a big regional divide. on the east coast and west coast, there is more sympathy than in the south and middle of the country. >> scott: that goes if they strike down prop 8, they have several options if they strike it down. more or less it is california only option or -- >> there
of democracy and human rights and civil society, outside its own borders now for 200 years, just took on an impossible task in iraq. it just wasn't going to acceptst that. and i would say much more likely than that the american-- tank american influence will be incremental improvements in what is now a pretty dire situation, is that it's very likely to get worse, and lead to civil war, and it's not even clear that the most fundamental issue:00 is who governs in iraq, the majority shi'a, or the minority sunni, it's not even clear that that's, a settled issue, and if isn't a settled issue, and the sunnise prevail in syria and back their brothers across the borders of iraq and anbar, you may very well see a civil war, at least as brutal as we were witnessing in 2007 at the time time of the surge. >> rose: we will come back to manies thof point. >> or beloved late friend richard holbrooke once asked me. what did i think? what was my sounded bite about this war. i said we will did due course learn whether it was an open success or -- >> noble. >> he object toltd notification of noble failu
, it felt like a return to the worst days of the insurgency and the civil war. dozens of injured people have been brought to hospitals like this right across baghdad. normally, this road would have been absolutely crammed with traffic, but people are staying home today. there is a real fear that more bombs could happen, a fear that people have grown used to for the last 10 years. >> on this night in 2003, the hammer blows of the american attack started what turned into a decade of insurgency and civil war. opinion polls at the time indicated that half the iraqi people in this deeply divided country welcomed the invasion while the other half were bitterly angry. a lot of that anger is still around. this is a place that's tends to attract riders and intellectual -- writers and intellectuals. it was bombed. the owner lost four of his sons and a grandson. >> the invasion has not been a success at all. it has held us back 100 years. it has destroyed me and my family, who have become widowed and orphan. >> it is only a mile away, but here, the customers are young and very different. the facebook c
and marriage used to be sacrosanct, untouchable, not a very long ago. now no one talks about civil unions anymore. >> you don't hear as much about it. there's still a divide. about two-thirds of people say they'd favor fully equal rights for same-sex couples as heterosexual couples but support for actual gay marriage is lower than that across any different polling. so there is still a gap there. i think the issue has shifted in a way it's been argued on both sides. that this seemed to be maybe a safe middle ground or steppingstone towards marriage for some people i think a lot of advocates don't see it that way, that it's now defining it as something different than marriage is not what they want to see happen. >> ifill: when you define it as being legal versus illegal is that different than saying the right -- the sacrament of marriage? do you ask the question differently that way do you get different answers? >> you do. and that suggests there are people torn over this. we find a majority of people say they think gay marriage goes against their religious belief but a majority also says t
's now the more likely scenario, where you have long sectarian fighting some kind of civil war where the aloites, even though they've lost effective national control are tile continue some sort of law. mr. landis used the example before, and i think it is right on, what we saw in iraq where you had for years various sunni group continue to take the battle against the shi'a forces. >> rose: joshua, would you contradict what richard said? >> the big danger for obama is you're not going to end the civil war by destroying the syrian state. there are over 1,000 militias in the opposition. some of them are al qaeda connected. the islamic front, which leans in that direction, is perhaps the most powerful collection of militias. and then there are other militias that we're trying to cultivate and give our aid to which are more liberal islamist militias. so-- and the danger is all these militias are sharing arms. they're working together. so if you give arms to your militia, you can't guarantee that they're not going to be shared with the more-- other islamic front militias. and that's proble
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